A few people reached out to me on May 5th and shared this interview of David Grusch. David discussed my work (timestamp 34:00) and mentioned the work of my friend and colleague, Dr. Brett Robinson Associate Director for Outreach for the McGrath Institute for Church Life at Notre Dame. I wasn’t surprised by Grusch’s statements, which advocated a nuanced insight into aspects of nonhuman intelligence as it is related to UFOs (UAP). I’ve spoken with him over the last few years and we have associates and friends in common. I understand his position and what he wants to accomplish. I am grateful that he has been open, for a few years now, about the harassment he’s experienced by going public about the alleged “legacy program,” or the program that probably has been around for more than seventy years, if it exists. I inadvertently and unintentionally discovered its possible existence in my early research into this topic. Believe me when I state, before 2014, I had no idea this was a thing (i.e., crash retrieval programs associated with UFOs). Whether it exists or not, it is documented publicly in my books.
NEW: Rep. Tim Burchett says the first drop of UFO files is a "drop in the bucket" compared to the "Holy Crap" moment that is coming.
"The 1st drop will be big but in comparison to what is coming they will be a drop in the bucket. I would say “Holy Crap” is coming," he said.
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— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) May 8, 2026
There’s a lot to absorb in this first limited info drop. I will be waiting for the response of those I find trustworthy on the matter.
